On a recent trip to Europe, Madeleine Thien dragged her partner, writer Rawi Hage, over a treacherous mountain path through the Pyrenees.听
The trek was a minor disaster 鈥 authors are rarely known for their outdoorsiness (鈥淚 thought she was trying to kill me,鈥 Hage deadpanned) 鈥 but Thien was determined to trace the steps of philosopher Hannah Arendt, who fled to Spain from Vichy France during the Second World War.
This was all done in the name of research, Thien told me over a beer when we met on a gloriously mild afternoon in Montreal, where she and Hage have lived for more than a decade.听
The pub鈥檚 crowd spilled onto the sidewalk, buzzing in anticipation of spring, as Thien discussed her admiration of Arendt, one of several philosophers and poets whose stories and ideas fill the pages of her long-awaited new novel, 鈥淭he Book of Records,鈥 which hits shelves Tuesday.
Thien, whose friends call her Maddie, recently turned 50, but appears youthful, her black hair streaked with subtle shades of grey. Soft-spoken, she delivers her ideas with slow and thoughtful intention. She claims she is a hermit, but in conversation with friends, she is both generous and engaging.听
With just days until the novel鈥檚 release, Thien seemed excited, if slightly nervous. 鈥淭he Book of Records鈥 is her first major work of fiction since 2016鈥檚 鈥淒o Not Say We Have Nothing鈥 鈥 a daring, multi-generational epic about the struggle for survival amid the terrors of China鈥檚 Cultural Revolution 鈥 took home both the Giller Prize and the Governor鈥檚 General Award, and skyrocketed her to international fame.
Like Thien鈥檚 previous works, 鈥淭he Book of Records鈥 is an urgent and deeply political novel. But it鈥檚 also her most personal 鈥 though not in a way you might expect.听
Set 100 years in the future, the novel tells the story of Lina, a young girl from China, and her ailing father. Fleeing the devastating effects of climate change, they arrive as refugees at a densely populated way station called 鈥渢he Sea鈥 鈥 an uncanny space where time has collapsed and where voyagers and philosophers from centuries past mingle with migrants from around the world.
Blending historical fiction, adventure, romance, family drama and intellectual autobiography, 鈥淭he Book of Records鈥 is a riveting and unruly examination of the formative thinkers who shaped Thien as a writer and a human being 鈥 Arendt, 17th century philosopher Baruch Spinoza and Tang dynasty era poet Du Fu.
Prismatic and dazzlingly unorthodox, the novel鈥檚 ambition is apparent within its first pages, as Thien seeks to drill to the very core of the human condition.
鈥淚 wanted to write a book that a teenager would find expansive and thrilling, a book that would touch some of the deeper questions they have about existence, while also being a page turner,鈥 Thien told me in a video call earlier this spring
She smiles broadly 鈥 there鈥檚 an irony in describing a book that features interludes on Kantian ethics being described as a romp.
鈥淪ome people might laugh at this, but the philosophers I chose to write about so longed to communicate,鈥 she continued. 鈥淎nd I felt these ideas belong to all of us 鈥 not to replicate, but to grapple with.鈥
Nine years in the making, 鈥淭he Book of Records鈥 was born out of a time of personal transformation, and arrives at a time of political upheaval 鈥 of displacement, atomization and obliteration. And though it leaps across centuries, from the past to imagined futures, it is 鈥減ainfully saturated with the present.鈥澛
鈥淚t deals with questions about survival, about our obligations to one another 鈥 about what it means to think about the time we live in. And what that thinking requires then of action.鈥

“The Book of Records” hits shelves May 6.
Penguin Random House CanadaThien fell in love with Arendt almost immediately.听
Though she had no formal training in philosophy, the young writer found herself transfixed with the political theorist upon discovering her letters with American novelist Mary McCarthy. 鈥淚 admired her for her hardness, her sardonic qualities, the complexity of her insight,鈥 Thien told me.
A German-Jewish intellectual writing in the wake of the second world war, Arendt believed that a life without politics 鈥 without public speech or action 鈥 is 鈥渓iterally dead to the world.” Modernity, she argued, has eroded our capacity for politics, reducing human life to mere biological existence. It is in these conditions that totalitarianism flourishes 鈥 in which the banality of evil takes shape. Only bold, heroic action returns meaning to life.
These ideas informed Thien鈥檚 recent novels, which explored the impacts of totalitarianism in China and Southeast Asia.
鈥淚f you’re trapped in a room, and nobody is coming to save you, what can you do?鈥 a character asks in 鈥淒o Not Say We Have Nothing.鈥 鈥淵ou have to bang on the walls and break the windows. You have to climb out and save yourself.鈥
Thien herself has emerged in recent years as something of an Arendtian figure: an outspoken intellectual and the quiet conscience of Canadian literature, bravely leveraging her international status to speak truth to power 鈥 from her forceful objection to the crackdown on pro-democracy movement and dissent in Hong Kong, to her聽from her forceful objection to the crackdown on pro-democracy movement and dissent in Hong Kong, to her condemnation of聽violence in Gaza and the occupied West Bank.
In November, she , the imprisoned Hong Kong democracy activist and former news publisher.
鈥淲here do my responsibilities, which are an expression of my love for this world, lead me?鈥 she asked herself. 鈥淲hat is the thing which I am not permitted to say? What is the cost of not saying these words?鈥
These questions 鈥 sweeping and existential 鈥 loom large in 鈥淭he Book of Records.鈥 But Thien鈥檚 answer is remarkably clear.
鈥淚 believe the world we want starts at this moment, not tomorrow. It is being created by every single act, every decision, we make.鈥
Thien was born and raised in Vancouver. Her father was Hakka from Malaysian Borneo, and her mother was from Hong Kong. They immigrated to Canada shortly before Thien was born.听
Her early fiction was profoundly influenced by Alice Munro, whose short stories she 鈥渨alked through as if they, too, were my home.鈥 Thien鈥檚 2001 debut short story collection, 鈥淪imple Recipes鈥 explored themes of sexuality, identity and the immigrant experience.
When Thien was in her late twenties, her mother died unexpectedly, months before they planned to travel together to China for the first time. Immersed in grief, Thien took the journey by herself and spent the next decade travelling through Asia and Europe. She briefly married, quickly divorced, and eventually landed in Quebec.听
Her concerns as a writer shifted, and she began to interrogate themes of war and dislocation. Her 2006 novel, 鈥淐ertainty,鈥 told the story of a woman seeking to unravel the secret of her father鈥檚 life in Japanese-occupied Malaysia. Thien鈥檚 second novel, 2011鈥檚 鈥淒ogs at the Perimeter,鈥 offered an unflinching look at the violence of the Camodian genocide.
Five years later, Thien published 鈥淒o Not Say We Have Nothing,鈥 a sprawling, intricate portrait of a group of musicians whose lives were uprooted by the Cultural Revolution 鈥 a decade-long political upheaval that included a brutal crackdown on artists and intellectuals 鈥 and traced the events leading up to the Tiananmen Square massacre.
Though dense and at times difficult, it connected deeply with both readers and critics.
鈥淣o other book has made a larger impact on me as a reader or writer,鈥 Su Chang, a Toronto-based novelist who was raised in China, told me. Deeply researched and empathetic, it offered a rare glimpse into a history that was largely obscured by government propaganda, Chang said, 鈥渁 portal to a time and place sealed away from my countrymen who were constantly fed 鈥渉alf-truths.鈥欌澛
But the emotional impact of the novel transcended the Chinese diaspora, connecting with readers in Poland, Ukraine, Indonesia and other places in the midst of transformation.听

Madeleine Thien’s 2016 novel “Do Not Say We Have Nothing”聽won Canada鈥檚 two highest literary awards and was nominated for the Man Booker Prize.听
PETER NICHOLLS / REUTERSWhat followed was a series of events that transformed Thien鈥檚 approach to her craft.听
In the summer of 2016, she travelled alongside a group of authors to the West Bank. In an for Granta, she wrote about what she called the 鈥渢otalizing consequences鈥 of Israel鈥檚 occupation, and the fragile, but deeply necessary acts of friendship that managed to survive and flourish amid violence.
That experience left her 鈥渨ordless鈥 at first, but sparked a fundamental change in how she viewed the political realm.
鈥淵ou don’t need any special perceptive, intuitive or imaginative capacities to witness the destruction of an entire world,鈥 she explained. 鈥淵ou just need ordinary eyes and to make the choice that you’re not going to look away.鈥
A year later, after months spent on the road, Thien’s father passed away after a brief illness. Despite her recent success, she felt precarious, and longed for a sense of stability.听
She accepted a job teaching at Brooklyn College at the City University of New York, a public liberal arts college largely made up of working class and immigrant students. She spent seven years travelling between Montreal and Brooklyn.
Amid these upheavals, Thien began to question her own ways of thinking.
鈥淚鈥檇 spent 10 years writing about extremely devastating subjects,鈥 she said. 鈥淭here were so many betrayals in those novels. I wanted the next one to be about where to place our faith, but also how to be people in whom that faith could be placed.鈥
When her father fell ill, Thien spent weeks at his bedside, floating in 鈥渁 tangential world, without hours or days.鈥 She turned to books for companionship, among them Italo Calvino鈥檚 鈥淚nvisible Cities,鈥 a postmodern novel in which an explorer describes dozens of fictional cities 鈥 鈥渃oncrete, but not possible鈥 鈥 each one a reflection on time, memory and the human condition.
She found herself inextricably drawn to a recurring image that she鈥檇 always dream of creating: a city made of time.听
鈥淭he Book of Records鈥 is the materialization of these dreams. Inspired in part by Kowloon Walled City 鈥 a densely populated, infamously lawless enclave in Hong Kong 鈥 鈥渢he Sea鈥 represents an imagined future, a city where buildings rise above a vast ocean like 鈥渁 thousand pieces of coloured glass.鈥
Lina is just seven when she and her father arrive at the Sea, after being separated from her mother and brother. Lonely and yearning for knowledge, she befriends three eccentric neighbours, whose lives mirror those of Arendt, Du Fu and Spinoza.听
鈥淚 was really interested in the mind of a young girl,鈥 Thein said. As a child, her father suffered from 鈥減rofound depression,鈥澛 while her mother worked three jobs. 鈥淥ne of my strongest memories is watching my mother going over the bills at night, in a state of deep stress. We didn’t have many books in the house, so I was always spending my weekends at the library. Maybe I was lonely, but I felt fed by this world beyond the life that I had.鈥
As the years pass and her father鈥檚 health worsens, Lina鈥檚 neighbours recount tales from their lives and guide her through questions about memory, history and the nature of truth.听
The novel is demanding 鈥 it moves quickly between centuries and perspectives, and includes lengthy interludes on cyberspace, transcendental idealism and historical materialism. But Thien鈥檚 prose is evocative and buoyant; her storytelling filled with dramatic tension and unexpected twists.听
- Jean Marc Ah-Sen Special to the Star
And yes, it is a page turner.听
In a series of gripping passages peppered throughout the novel, Thien boldly enters the mind of her intellectual heroes, dramatizing and recreating in vivid detail deeply researched moments from their lives. In the case of Arendt, Thien imagines her romance with the towering German philosopher (and eventual Nazi) Martin Heidegger; her internment at Camp Gurs in Vichy France; her harrowing escape to America; the solace she found among her intellectual peers 鈥 鈥渢hese true and faithful friends without whom she herself might have lost hope.鈥
鈥淚t was terrifying 鈥 it felt like a transgression,鈥 Thien told me, noting that Arendt was famously private about this period of her life. 鈥淏ut I also know that she reserved a special place for poets and writers.鈥
鈥淚鈥檝e lived with that idea for a long time,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 have a deep love for imagination. I really think of it as a deep thinking process. And I think that is why autofiction is never going to be enough for me. I need to leave myself 鈥 it鈥檚 the only way I can arrive at a kind of thinking more rooted in the world, beyond what I myself, as an individual way, might have come to.鈥
鈥溾赌Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it,鈥欌 she said, reciting a line from Arendt鈥檚 essay on Danish author Isak Dinesen.
鈥淭his ship was insignificant, and its passengers even more so,鈥 Thien writes, as Arendt鈥檚 thrilling journey from Paris to the Atlantic Ocean reaches its conclusion. 鈥淏ut hadn鈥檛 they moved heaven and earth to reach this moment?鈥
Last November, Thien took the stage at The Writers鈥 Trust Awards in 海角社区官网to accept the .听
The event took place a day after the Scotiabank Giller Prize gala, an event that had divided the Canadian literary community over its lead sponsor鈥檚 ties to an Israeli weapons manufacturer. In the lead-up to the gala, hundreds of authors had pledged to boycott the prize, while Thien and several former Giller winners penned an open letter聽in the Star. Thien 聽she was donating the $25,000 prize money, splitting it between the Woodcock Fund, which supports Canadian writers facing emergencies, the Palestine Children’s Relief Fund and the Lebanese Red Cross.
鈥淗eavy is the root of light, as the old philosophers say,鈥 Thien said, quoting the Tao Te Ching. 鈥淗ow we stand here is important, how we breathe.鈥
鈥淚n an era where so many of us feel we can’t speak about Gaza or about Palestine for fear of being censored, Madeleine鈥檚 courage has been a beacon of light for so many writers across the country,鈥 said Anjula Gogia, a bookseller and events coordinator with Another Story Bookshop.
But for Thien, it was not a question of courage. That a writer who has the ability to speak out would choose silence, she told me, would corrupt the very act of writing.听
鈥淭he ability to express oneself, and the belief that there are words that will matter, but to then not speak about something that feels so important to all of us 鈥 that compromises the vocation to its very core, and I would then choose not to be a writer at all.鈥
鈥淚t鈥檚 not just up to the ones we admire to take action,鈥 she added. 鈥淚t’s everyone’s duty at this point not to dehumanize other people. Not to be complicit.鈥
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